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J. Welles Wilder introduced this indicator in 1978. The ATR indicator is used to measure a securities volatility, not price direction or duration. It was originally designed for commodities since it takes daily price data into consideration, but can be used for stocks as well. The ATR is most commonly used at a 14 day time period. To see this indicator, go into the Interactive Chart and select it from the “Select Studies” drop down menu. When you add it to your chart it will give you a current reading relative to your stock. Keep in mind that a $20 stock will have a lower ATR reading than let’s say a $100 stock. The idea is to see what the indicator tells you now, and what your extreme high points and low points are.
Hope that helps. Stay tuned...
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Posted by Anonymous | 12/21/2006 12:30:00 PM
Stops are triggered at the ask and filled at the bid. It is more noticeable in options since the bid ask spread is a noticeable percentage of the trade.
Posted by Anonymous | 12/21/2006 12:32:00 PM
Jeff,
Dumb question, but is this the average true range for a TRADING DAY? In other words, do you adjust your stop each day based on the ATR?
Example: If the stock is $50 and has an ATR of $1.50, you'd put your stop in at $58.45 or so. But if the stock climbs $1 on the day, do you adjust it to $59.45 the next day. Is that correct?
Posted by Brett | 12/21/2006 01:49:00 PM
Let me clarify before someone (other than my wife) calls me a moron:
I know that ATR is measured over a 14-day period, so the logical answer would be that you use this as a 14-day stop. But I'm unclear how often this should be adjusted. Every 14 days? Every day?
Posted by Brett | 12/21/2006 01:51:00 PM
Hey Brett,
This is most commonly used as a trailing stop methodology. Meaning since your ATR was at 1.50, you put a trailing stop based on the value of the stock, 1.50 below current price. The only time you'd need to adjust, is if your ATR has changed by a good enough amount. Does that make sense?
Posted by Option Addict | 12/21/2006 02:20:00 PM
So basically you'd adjust every day and if there's an INTRADAY move greater than the ATR you'd be stopped out?
Posted by Brett | 12/21/2006 02:25:00 PM
You shouldnt have to adjust it at all. As the stock rises, so does the stop. If the stock falls, it stands firm.
Posted by Option Addict | 12/21/2006 02:30:00 PM
Fellas,
I was following your comments nicely until the last post by Jeff. Jeff, when you say that you shouldn't have to adjust it at all are you talking about the ATR or the stop price? The way I understand it, since it is an average, the ATR will not fluctuate much daily but the stop price is a set amount that would need to be adjusted up as the stock price increases.?
Danny K
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Jeff's referring to a trailing stop order which most brokerages will allow you to do. I have just switched brokerages and haven't figured out how to do that yet, but it's pure genius!! You just say "I want to set my stop at the last close price minus "X" and voila... (as we say up here in Canada) you're covered.
Sure wish I'd had that set up on IIG.
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